EMS Is this how they do things?

Ohio madman · Posts: 65 Join date: 2008-06-02

CoshoctonTaxpayer wrote:

I have NEVER seen a patients arms under the straps.You haven't either. Especially if the patient is a non trauma.Cot wheels move just fine through snow and and most other ground cover.

Are you speaking from experience or do you just watch ER? I'm speaking from several years expeience in EMS-not in this county, thank god, but I do know what I am talking about. So you don't agree. Fine. But you are apparently not arguing from experience.
Cot wheels do not move just fine through snow- If the snow is deep enough. they jam up with impacted snow and hang up. They aren't wide wnough to travel over snow-they sink down in. Add in the ice layer we had under the snowfall, and you have a very precarious situation. A person walkng across the ice supported by two people, one on each side, is less likely to fall since at least one of those helping him would have enough traction to keep him from falling, or to keep him from landing hard. In the worst case, if all three slip, the patient will likely land on one or the other EMT instead of the ice and avoid serious additional injury. The EMT he lands on may not be so lucky, but that is the chance they take.
On the squads I ran on, the procedure is the arms go under the strap until the cot is inside the squad, then they are released. So, yes I have seen them strapped in many times.

CoshoctonTaxpayer · Posts: 152 Join date: 2008-03-03

the stryker cots used in this county move just fine in the snow. What good is an emt if they are injured moving a patient??? They are useless and not only that they just cost the county workers comp.

Ohio madman · Posts: 65 Join date: 2008-06-02

Unless Stryker has changed their design radically, I can't agree. I've used them before and wasn't impressed with their snow performance. They do all right in an inch or two, but bog down when it is deep.

madcow · Posts: 902 Join date: 2008-03-13

I never ran with the squad, so I don't know how cots travel though the snow. I would think that after so many runs, that they would learn how to guide a cot though the snow. Maybe they should have told me when I called 911, that because of the snow, we will walk your husband to the squad, unless he is dead or in a coma. All I know is I was panic, to see him so weak and ill, and I heartfully believe I needed to call 911 for him to be transfered. Like I said this was the first time I had ever called the squad to my home, and I guess I wanted my husband to be give the standard of care that was due him. Prehaps I was asking too much, I just thought that when you called the squad they transfered you via cot. I guess I need to wake up to the real world.

The price the poor guy was to pay for being Madcow's husband. LOL

Ohio madman · Posts: 65 Join date: 2008-06-02

With the conditions, they likely would have had to carry the cot instead of rolling it. If either EMT slipped while carrying it, it would have been difficult for that person to recover traction and balance and it would have been likely that the cot, your husband, and one or both EMTs would have ended up on the ground. They were seriously thinking of your husband's welfare and safety when they asked him if he was able to walk out to the squad. If he had said no, they would have taken the risks and carried him out. Since he indicated that he was able to walk, they took him out that way, with them supporting him.
Even though it didn't seem like it to you, your husband was getting the best care they could provide.

madcow · Posts: 902 Join date: 2008-03-13

That is so true, I didn't like it, maybe if I called the squad every other day or so to my house, I would have know. Maybe you are right, but the least they could have done was told me when I try to tell them he was too weak, they could have seen I was concerned about it and said, for your husband's safety it's better that we help him walk. That would have easied my concern, and not left me with such a bad taste in my mouth. Would you not agree, that they should have taken the time or effort to tell me this? When I was intervening for him? Would you have done that, or just dragged him out as I stood their, knowing I was worried about this transfer?

madcow · Posts: 902 Join date: 2008-03-13

Why are you trying so hard? When there are so many other threads to post on.

madcow · Posts: 902 Join date: 2008-03-13

I just heard on Jay Leno, that you are going to have to pay 55 bucks, to call 911. LOL. Call a cab, it will be cheaper and they walk with you to the Cab and even open the door for you! And the best part, they even let you smoke? At least they did a few years back, when I had to call a cab to go to work in.

Ohio madman · Posts: 65 Join date: 2008-06-02

I think the last anti-smoking issue I voted against ended smoking in taxi cabs also.
Obama signed a law that will add $.61 tax per pack so they can pay for children's health insurance-but keep limiting where you can smoke. There is someplace up in New England that has an ordinance that you can't smoke in your car if children are in the car with you, and somplace is considering one that would forbid smoking in your home if you have children living with you. Once they stamp out all the smokers, who is going to pay for all that health insurnace?
piss

madcow · Posts: 902 Join date: 2008-03-13

A friend of mine just called me and said a bag is going from 18 to 55. Glad I stopped smoking. I can't afford 18 for a bag let alone 55.

madcow · Posts: 902 Join date: 2008-03-13

Maybe it depends on who is driving the cap, but like I said it's been a few years.

madcow · Posts: 902 Join date: 2008-03-13

BlackBush, is just more of the same, he will make GW look like a angel before it's all over. How smart of the government to put him in office, you talk bad about him you are a bigget! Will keep the people in line!

madcow · Posts: 902 Join date: 2008-03-13

An Oklahoma City man was pulled over by police and later visited at home by the secret service for displaying an anti-Obama sign.

Just a start, you better becareful about what you say about BlackBush!

http://www.infowars.net/articles/february2009/190209Sign.htm

attack-cat · Posts: 452 Join date: 2008-03-14 Location: Conesville

Yep, hear that ....... that is the sound of freedoms flushing down the toilet. Freedom of speech was great while it lasted. I wonder what the USA will be like in ten years?

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Ohio madman · Posts: 65 Join date: 2008-06-02

Sweden, probably